The good folk in lo-sec and null often say it is the broken 'gameplay' that is the issue.

How would nerfing hi-sec fix the broken gameplay issues?

No, because you cant force ppl to go somewhere they don't want to go...

Some ppl like hi sec and while they accept the dangers there, they don't feel like being the main entertainment for bored pvp'ers and greifer alliances (you know who you are) in null and low sec.

Everyone needs to take a step back and respect that ppl are different and want different things from Eve.


Tal

Hi sec doesn't need to be looked at till low and null are "fixed", what is it low and null are broken so hi sec should be to ?

Tell you what troll, why dont you check my history before making lame ass comments that don't contribute to the discussion beyond making you look dumb.

Tell you what troll, why dont you check my history before making lame ass comments that don't contribute to the discussion beyond making you look dumb.

Tal

Access, Sovereignty etc, Killboard stats being more important than actually playing the game, greifers.. need I go on ....


Tal

Your point? I live in Null. Well aware. Doesn't stop people who are interested from running into road blocks. They liike PvE and mining. They would do fine in Null but as soon as someone finds out they'd rather shoot their own foot than take their skiff or Raven to a fleet. Well, no one is interested. As for renting... Yeah, that is a good deal. Either way, I think there are things in Null that a lot of people would like to do but they aren't wanted because they aren't interested in PvP and holding Sov. If Null idiots weren't so aggressive and power hungry then they would be able to go to Null. As it is they're reasonably happy in High-Sec where they can do their own thing without much worry. I wonder just how many people live in High-Sec for those exact same reasons, hmmm.....

Solo PVP is DEAD. Fix that. Not everybody wants to join some nerds and listen their mumbling just to be able to play the game.

Reducing the risk of being killed may solve the problem:
1. remove warp scramblers, warp disruptors, warp bubbles\scripts from the game
2. increase the time required to start the warp drives
3. decrease incoming damage from multiple ships (something like stacking penalty)

For example, you will have like 15 seconds to kill a ship, if you fail - it will go away. Simple.
In the end, you'll see a lot more pew-pew, because people will have a chance of escape.

Because:
1. pve fitted ship vs pvp fitted ship = you lose
2. 1 vs many = you lose
3. non combat ship vs combat ship = you lose
4. bad internet connection = you lose
5. not using meta gaming tricks = you lose

Also, if CCP will reduce the rewards in hi-sec then even less players will go to low-sec, because it will be harder for them to recover from the loss of the ship.

You keep making arguments then denying you made them ?? Funny that must be everyone else heh... By the way you said you weren't posting in here anymore, as you have decided to go back on that too (although I'm sure you will say you didn't) would you like to answer the questions you where asked and ignored when you flounced out of this thread in a huff


Tal

1 Because your taking part in PVE activities maybe ??
2 Doesnt always work and gates aren't the only place you can be out-numbered
3 See 1

4 and 5 you can have


Tal

Like you,



So you made a statement based in no fact, like the rest of your posts. mate again how about you listen to what others are saying and come back with constructive arguments rather than trolling everyone who doesn't agree with you.

Tal

... the problem with nullsec right now is that no matter how much we want to build up our infrastructure to the point where we can even begin to compete with (or let alone supercede) hisec, we can't. We're limited by the rules of the sandbox from making an empire in nullsec which would be able to compete with hisec, and as such a vast majority of everyone in nullsec do all their moneymaking, production and stocking up in hisec.

This is not as it should be, the imbalance between high, low and null are too vast in the favor of hisec. Nullsec needs to be released from a lot of the restrictions which currently restrain it, and hisec really does need to have some costs increased.

You're coming at the problem from the wrong angle. 0.0 industry doesn't need more safety it needs more flexibility, capacity and resources.

I produce Drakes in batches of 20 once every couple of months in Deklein (probably the most active 0.0 market) and it can take weeks for my mineral buy orders to fill (and even then its mostly people jumping in compressed lowends rather than mining them). Once thats done I have the challenge of fetching 4-5 jump freighters full of materials from potentially 3-4 jumps out of my production station (I could limit my buy orders but that'll take another couple of weeks to fill). Then I'm faced with a couple of days wait for one of the 10 manufacturing slots in the station.

Alternatively I could compress minerals in empire and jump them to a 0.0 refinery, reprocess them there and do the 4-5 jumps in my 6 billion isk pinata to my manufacturing station but then I need an empire production chain as well as a 0.0 one and at that point why bother for the 3-5m profit I get selling a drake. I might as well just buy some in Jita and jump them up pre-built.

Or I guess I could whip out a hulk and do some mining but why should I have to do that? Mining is terrible.

For 0.0 industry to thrive we need to de-couple stations from sov so we can have more than one station per system. We need some way of producing our own lowend minerals in a way that is close to the profit produced by highends to encourage people to actually mine them. And we need more production capacity in player built outposts so that production can keep up with the increased number of players in 0.0 (probably more research too but idgaf).

Is it against the rules to insult an ISD member by calling them names for suggesting something that would destroy the balance of the games interdependent nature?

Not an insult at all , its that increasing taxes or nerfing hi sec will not make hi sec peeps move to low or null. You can incentivise ppl to go into low with a carrot , making low and null more attractive, but you can't do it with a stick, nerfing hi sec, as that just get's ppls backs up.

Tal

Not to stomp on someone who apparently gets it, but plexes are currently 507/498,5, not 350. :P